Get Authentic with Marques Ogden
Get Authentic with Marques Ogden

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Get Authentic with Marques Ogden- Elite episode Shea Hillenbrand

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Shea Matthew Hillenbrand (born July 27, 1975) is a former American professional baseball third baseman and first baseman, who played in Major League Baseball (MLB) for the Boston Red SoxArizona DiamondbacksToronto Blue JaysSan Francisco GiantsLos Angeles Angels of Anaheim, and Los Angeles Dodgers.

In this heart-felt, extremely inspirational interview Marques talks with Shea about his upbringing, his baseball career where he earned over $20 MILLION DOLLARS, to him leaving the game at the height of his career, to buying a zoo, to losing everything he owned, to bouncing back as an extremely successful speaker and business coach!  If you are looking for inspiring action steps to get your life going in the right direction, this is an episode, you don’t want to miss!  To find out more about our podcast or hear more episodes, please visit our website, Marques Ogden | Keynote speaker - Executive Coach

Yeah, gloorally one and welcome to another elite episode of the Get Authentic with Marcus Show. I'm your host, Marcus Adden, and today we're joined by Shaye Hillenbrand, former Major League Baseball player. Before bring up shade to the stage, I want to thank one of our amazing sponsors, Gluten talg l t D. They are the official clothing maker, sponsor and producer of the Get Authentic with Marcus Show. Go to their website check out their gear. It's really well done by Mr Steve Davey, the CEO and founder of Guten Tal Ltd. And now here he is Mr Shaye hillo Brand. How you doing a Shay, I'm doing amazing. How you doing? I'm doing well, but I'm doing well, so Shay. First question, we asked every single guest what does the word authentic slash authenticity mean to them? That's a great question. I haven't been asked that before and I've done a plethora of podcast So authenticity authentic means to me is being true to your story and owning your story of what's led you to where you are right now, so you could be vulnerable, allowing people to feel a space that's comfortable and safe enough so they could open up and rewrite their story as well. Shay, we asked a lot of people that question, everybody on the show, actually, and that was a very nicely said answer that has never been said of And I like how you said be vulnerable to help people open up to rewrite their story. I take a note of that. So I have a question for you, Shay. What does the word vulnerability mean to you as a as a celebrity All Star baseball player. That's a word that you cringe when you hear because you think of it as a sign of weakness, vulnerabilities, owning every part of your story, owning those parts that you know that people you might not want to know. But if you work through it and understand, it's what's led you to take the actions that you've taken to maybe have a result that's not as desirable or maybe you're embarrassed of or maybe you're embarrassed sure of uh that that's where it's at. And I've taken great pride of doing a lot of work to put myself in a position to allow myself to be vulnerable and transparent to help other people out. I love it, man, Vulnerability, right, Shay, it is being honest and raw with the people when they don't ask you right, that's being vulnerable and that's huge. So Shay, tell on list a little bit about yourself story background and how you got into being an awesome professional Major League Baseball All Star player. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh My story starts so when I'm in fifth grade. Remember fifth grade very vividly Mr Murphy's class, And one day he went around and he said, all right, guys, we're gonna talk about what you want to do when you grow up. Dream big? What do you guys want to dream about? And I'm vigorously raising my hand in the back of the room and I'm like, pick me, pick me. And I was kind of the outcast kid. I was a kid that couldn't sit still, and I was a kid that always caused ruckets. I was a kid always trying to make my presence known. So I sat in the back of the class. So he said, okay, say what do you want to do? And I said, I'm gonna play major League baseball and I'm gonna own a zoo. And all my classmates laughed at me, and I'm like, dude, like you're half at my dreams like I'm going to do it. So from...

...that day forward, fifth grade on, I was like on a on a mission to try to prove everybody else wrong. We fast forward to ninth grade. Ninth grade is middle school in southern California in the nineteen eighties. Um, I just finished junior high going into high school my sophomore year. It's the summer. I'm a formative years of my life. Um. I only found my solitude, my identity, my comfort through my community of friends and sports. And I was always one of the better athletes. I had a little bit of talent, but I was always outside kicking the ball against the wall, or I was throwing the ball against the wall or hitting a ball off of the t I never really watched TV or listen to music. So, uh, when I was fourteen years old, my dad walks into my room and he drops a bombshell at me and he says, son, we're moving out of state. I was like what, like, like how could this happen? And when he left the room, that's all he really told me when he left the room. The story I told my I saw it was I'm not lovable, I'm not good enough, and my dad doesn't love me. How could he remove me? How could he take me from my community of friends in sports at such a pivotal time in my life. And that was the foundation of the demise of the following of shaehillum Brand so I said, luckily left all my childhood friends. I decided to become an overachiever through athletics. UH moved to Arizona from southern California, and in high school, I became the number one soccer player in the state of Arizona. Had chances to play in Europe, I had chances to play at universities, but I didn't have any opportunity to play baseball anywhere after high school. But like I said, my first childhood dream was what so um. I walked on at a junior college local community college here in Arizona, Masic Community College, and I made the team only because I'm a work ethic. I was the first guy there, last guy to leave every single day. And after my sophomore season of playing junior college baseball, I rapidly excelled at playing baseball and it became the number one baseball player in the state of Arizona at the junior college level. So I got drafted by the Red Sox at twenty years old. My dream is starting to become true. But as I went around, I told all my friends at twenty years old, brother, all my friends that I got drafted by the White Sox. They're like, what are you talking about? Man, Like, you got drafted by the Red Sox. It's a prestigious organization. Nineteen eighteen, last time the win in the World Series, It's Red Sox Nation. It's comprised New England of sixties. And wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, take a breath, I said. For one, I grew up a Dodger fan. Uh In in l A. We show up in a thirty inning and leaving the seventh and need to be trafficing. We listened to In Scully on the radio. I don't know anything about baseball outside of Jabez Ravine and the Los Angeles Dodgers because I'm a West Coast fan. This is East Coast. I heeart baseball. And for number two, I told all my friends, I don't care what socks it is. I'm going to the big leagues. I don't go with y'all, are dude, I'll go to the big leagues. So after five years in the minor leagues, treacherous years. It's it's hard, it's it's it's where you separate yourself off. What you go through as a minor league baseball player is really, really it is challenging on your soul. It is challenging on your identity. It's challenging on who you think you are because it's the first time you're away from home. For most guys, you're living in and a pod on towns and riding busses for sixteen hours overnight, and like crazy, stuff goes on. So out of the three of the five years in the minor legues, I was player of the year three of the five years and giving myself a chance to play major league baseball. On opening day two thousand one, I'm starting third baseman for the Red Sox. And how I got there is just here, grit here, being able to pivot um. You can't write it down on a paper, like how did she get this opportunity? I just took advantage of every opportunity that was put in front of me because I prepared myself. I took pride in preparing myself and the preparation aspect, like Kobe Bryant or Michael or Dwayne Wade.

I have a cleaner mindset if you want, if you follow Tim Grover, I'm that guy that's like, I don't know what y'all doing, Like I'm I'm training, I'm training, I'm training. So after seven memorable years of playing Major League baseball, man, I was the first Guy Red Sox player to hit a game winning home run off of Mariano Rivera at Finway Park, the all time greatest closure for the Yankees. I'm running first base. The ground is shaking. I had three home runs and consecutive innings for the Diamondbacks. I was in two All Star Games, playing in front of millions of people, and I was in a perfect game to like highlight after highlight after a highlight, And here I am on top of the world. I have anything and everything I ever wanted, living out real time my childhood dream with twenty million dollars in the bank, with multiple matches, playing private jets and having three hundred pairs of shoes, six cars, everything, rubbing shoulders at the presidents and movie stars, and like a celebrity, like I had little girls in the stands holding up signs saying William Mary Mische when I was playing for the Red Socks and I was doing autograph signings for ten dollars just for one hour, and girls would come to the table crying and shaking just because they got to meet me, like I was a Justin Bieber or in a boy band. But what they couldn't see was that deep, deep pain resonating inside myself, fueling that pain driven game. So here I am on top of the world in the prem of my career. I'm making a decision proven to be the biggest decision of my life. I had become numb to everything and everybody around me. The one thing I couldn't find was fulfillment and sustainable success. I hated myself, I hated everything around me because my identity had become the game. Like so many professional athletes, I'm not lovable, I'm not good enough. My dad doesn't love me. The story that I told myself from fourteen years old on just ingrained into my belief system, and all I tried to do is get admiration and love and approval from my father. So I made a decision. I walked away. I quit in the prime of my career thirty two years old. I left fifty million dollars and potential earnings on the table. I'm done. I couldn't handle it anymore. Two thousand five, I was flying to the All Star Game in a citation ten private jet. I'm going sixty four thousand ft sixty miles an hour. I'm looking out the window, going to my childhood dream like so many other American children out there. Boys, I want to play Major League Baseball. I'm looking out the window, and the thoughts going through my mind as I'm going to the All Star Game is this is what life all it has to offer. I God, I hate everything about this man Like I can't handle this, Like I don't know what to do, like my identities, this and I live and die every single night. But I have to put a smile on my face to go out there and playing for the millions of people the next day for the Midsummer Classic, the All Star Game in Detroit, Michigan. Or I'm not going to have a job if I don't perform, I'm not going to have a job. If I don't show up, I'm not going to have a job. If I don't operate at a high level, I'm not going to have a job. And that's where so many people as fans or people on the outside, uh kind of like they can't relate. But if I don't have a job, I don't have an identity. I don't know who I am because the game had become a name. So I left in the parm of my career and I get this great idea. I convinced myself to come home, be a father to my three beautiful children, and pursue my second childhood dream. Remember what it was. So I think I'm the only Major League Baseball player who left Major League Baseball and bought a zoo. Um So I purchased a five million dollar horse farm in Gilbert, Arizona, and I thirty acres and accumulate three hundred farming exotic animals. I have camels, kangaroos, lamazal pacas, monkeys, raccoons. I have a three legged gilt named Trace. I have two Willshire pigs seven hundred pound pigs named Taco Bell and Gilbert. I have a cni pony for a blind horse. I have a whole steam cow named Biggie Smalls and have a miniature donkey named Tupac. And at night we had a separate them because they'd have...

...coast coast wars man. It got crazy on that farm. Just joking, brother, But what happened was I had a vision in my head to put these animals in a position two interact with inner city disabled and child Christis children in my community here in Arizona through my nonprofit foundation against all odds. Man, the transformations of what these animals did, transforming on thousands of lives of these children in my community out here was just completely priceless. I'm bound to get fulfillment now because Major League Baseball didn't do it. They fame didn't do what the Glory didn't do it. The success all the would think that we think about external what we thought would do it. It didn't do it. But maybe this will do it because I'm rescuing animals and I'm helping kids to my foundation. But it didn't. See. What happened was I had a god sized hole inside myself and my soul and everything I tried to achieve it couldn't fill that whole. All the success, all the monetary stuff, all the materialistic stuff, all the fame of the glory, all the helping, all it did was stroke my ego because my ego stood in the gap because I was empty on the inside. See, your ego stands in the gap of where you are and the success you have if you don't know who you are. And fill that God's size hole with what it needs me filled with. And when the ego fills your gap, that stands for edging God out. And two things I discovered through the process of my journey of being on top of the world was that ego can get you there. Ego helped me out every single day when I stepped on that baseball field, but I wasn't able to find fulfillment and I wasn't able to have sustainable success because the ego just ruins you. So here I find myself eight years ago, after living both my childhood dreams, on the floor of a van parked outside my ex wife's house, with my three beautiful children on the inside of arms distance away. And here I lie on the floor of this van. Eight years ago, I was scrounging up change out of my cup holder just to feed my children the old Caesar's pizza. After bringing home twenty million dollars, I lost everything. I'm motionless in the floor of this van and I'm as a soul is leaving the top of my head and I'm clinging under my last breath after overdosing on drugs and alcohol. Here lies a guy that so many people envy. And my children were going to school telling all their friends that their daddy played for the Arizona Diamondbacks because that's where we live. And the thoughts going through my mind, brother, were so toxic and so negative and so so self sabotaging. You were loser, you lost everything. You're a hypocrite. You said you left the game because of your kids, but you didn't. What would your parents if you left this world today? Shaw? What kind of dad would do this to his kids? My answer that was, I don't know. I'm nothing if I don't have baseball. So tired of fighting that game, man, so I let go. I don't know if I died or if I fell asleep. See my game had the game had become my name, and it became my identity. When that I did it to you was stripped. I was lost, and the pain just mounted up day in and day out, and that God's size hole kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. So the next day by the grace of God. The sun pierces through the front wheel shield to my van that I was living in, and it went into my eyes and it woke me up. I had an AHA moment. See I didn't have any side effects, no nausea, no stomach ache, no no anything. It was really eerie because the concoction appeals and alcohol I consumed the night before, I should have either been dead or in the hospital, but I felt perfectly fine. It was an AHA moment, man. And the thing is that I want to convey to your listeners or your viewers is that I wasn't a drug addict. I wasn't an alcoholic. I'm not a drug addict now I'm not an alcoholic now. See what happened is that pain inside myself in the story I told myself on a daily basis, I'm not lovable, I'm not good enough. My dad just loved me became so severe I didn't know who are to turn. I couldn't ask for help. I couldn't be vulnerable, I couldn't be transparent, I couldn't be authentic. Because if you really pulled back the layers in a veil of...

Major League baseball player, what you would see as a hurt, crying a little boy with the crack soul filled with guilt and shame and resentment and and just anger and frustration because that pain. And what I realized to that process was that pain not transformed is transmitted some way, somehow, whether you're anger, whether you have drugs or alcohol or whatever that might be. That pain that's not transformed is transmitted because we run them and flee from those pain points. So I had two decisions when I was on the floor of that van. The next day, when I woke up, I had two difficult decisions that I challenged all your listeners and viewers to go through. Right now, I had to take back control and I had to own my life. And I didn't have to do that being a celebrity athlete, because I could just be whoever I wanted to be, and I could creat people whoever I wanted to be, and people would still treat me like a god. Talking about a sick, twisted, demented place to operate from as a person, it's sad. It's so sad, and it happens day in and day out with professional athletes. So I said, man, I gotta get into momentum. Man, I have to stacked with the winds on top of each other, and then once you get into momentum, life will reward you. Man, I'm telling you that it's like a universal law. This is what happens a man without a visual parish and didn't have a vision outside of baseball. So I just stacking little winds on top of each other and I got rewarded. So I got rewarded by God bringing strategic people into my life to provide a direction and accountability. Then I had to stand on guard in my mind, like the language the most important conversation will ever have having her life, the conversation we have with ourselves. So I was like, what are you having the conversations with yourself? Shape that you gotta be careful, Like you're not an idiot, You're not a failure. You might have made mistakes, you might have burnt bridges, but there's gotta be a reason. There's gotta be a reason that you did that. It's not because of who you are, It's because the character that you developed and the attitude that you had out of a survival technique to protect that hurt little boy inside from that story. Then I had to start understanding how to create a new belief system. See, the most important, the most powerful force and human nay true is for us as they can grue into what we believe to be true about ourselves. So I had to look at the mirror and saying, say, what do you truly believe about yourself? And it wasn't that good. And the way I elevated my belief system where I help guys now with my coaching program, is like, Okay, we have to keep accountability with herself. We gotta get self esteem with ourselves outside of what we do, because it's about you and not what you do. And I did that by keeping the promises to myself every single day and working at it and chiseling at it, starting at level one, not starting at level ten where I was playing Major League baseball. I had to start at level one again. And for most people, starting at level one is to stop the bleeding. Stop the habits and rituals on a daily basis that keeps bleeding you out, whether you're watching pornography, whether you're eating a certain way or whether you're drinking a certain way, whether you're running a number and fleeting from that pain. Instead of hitting that pain straight on and and and equipping yourself with what you need to do to push past that pain. So when I left baseball, when I got off the floor of that van, I became obsessed. See I was supposed to be a hundred million dollar baseball player and only made twenty million. I know, I know, I know. Uh that's I don't care about the numbers. I became infatuated. What why did that shape hill and Brand only reach one five of his potential? And what I pulled black a Laers the onion. This is what I discovered. See, our belief system in the perspective of how we view the world. The lens of how we view the world is formed by our belief system. Our belief systems formed by the story that we're telling ourselves on a daily basis. And what's so crazy is that we have the remote control in our hands right here, the power to change that story, the power to change that channel, the power to change that narrative, the power to change that frequency what we tune into at any point in time in your life. I come across so many people at forty years old, fifty lives passed me by, and it's riding off from the sunset. I had opportunities, but I didn't do the right thing. So I'm just gonna go off and right off. See, that story comes from experiences that we have in our life, most people's stories and traumatic experiences and formative experiences when their...

...adolescents or their childhood, and so many of us men just compartmentalized that because the way we interpreted that story or that experience. See, there's emotions wrapped around that experience and that in the story that we tell ourselves, and we just compartmentalized that, and we hate that, and that just jams up our belief system and then all of a sudden, we're empty inside and we don't know how to operate with that because with the providing protection, go out there and have success to prove to everybody else that we're worthy of what we're doing, because we don't believe that we're worthy on the inside. So I was able to rewrite history. I wasn't able to change the actual experiences that happened in my life with my father, but I was able to go back and change my perspective because our powers wrapped up in our perspective. I was able to Attaine his perspective. You know, I talked to my mom and I talked to my dad, and what I realize is that my father moved us from southern California to Arizona at fourteen years old. They give me a chance to play Major League Baseball. I didn't know that that is a communicated to me because my father was emotionally unavailable. My father didn't know how to communicate because we were dealing with the generational curse with what his he was going through with his parents. And what I want to convey to your the viewers is that, see, my story is very miniscule to so many other people's stories that I work with and help with and and share with out there. My story was just a couple of experience when my dad was just a white knuckler. He didn't beat us with just his verbally just kind of like just blow up, you know. And but I wasn't available to be emotionally stable enough to understand how to process and interpret those stories to myself with those experiences. But what I want to convey to your viewers is that your story is your truth, and your truth is where you're gonna operate from regards with all good or bad. That is. So what I do now is I use the MLB mindset, momentum, language, and belief to help people rewrite their stories and our lack ofly performance, especially world class athletes and leaders, so they can win in all areas of life by mastering the inner game, so they can give true meaning to the success they have, rather than having ag your success and life putting all over eggs in one basketba as a performer or a profession and not being able to show up as a father, as a husband, as a man. That hold, that's the head of our house. So in a little nutshell, that's my story. Brother, well man, let me tell you something, brother, Just amazing stuff you've gone through, from the MLB to find high and planes, uh living at a band, to scratching way together to you know, go and get and feed your kids and having an ex wife and I see who we married and all these other things you've gone through. And my story is similar to some degrees with having to start over and losing everything and bankruptcy and all that kind of stuff. So I have one final question for you, and then I want to have you type away can find you right shack. So you said a lot about mindset MLB and helping to train people, things like that, what's one thing you've been through right at the bottom that has now helped you to help others while you're at the top coaching people, leading people, and getting people to become the best verses of themselves. Great question, And the the one main thing is is those pain points. Identifying that pain point, sitting in that pain and allowing myself to be there and meditate on it and marinate in that pain, to allow myself to see where that pain comes from, and to audit that perspective, audit that perspective I have to that pain point, because, uh, what we do is it's the five piece man that I discovered is it's it's pain, it's perspective, it's power, it's purpose, and its profit. So when we go to these pain points, we have a negative perspective, and that perspective blocks are access to the power we have inside ourselves. So it's like, if we just get profit, if we just get success, if we just get status, if we just reach this level, all that will go away. The pain will go away. Let me tell you what, if you haven't had a lot of money, you will never realize that a lot of money will not solve your problems and make that pain go away. Trust I did it, and I went through it,...

...so I was able to change that perspective access of power inside myself that comes from my spirit, and I was exposed to a deeper version of myself. I discovered new gifts and talents, and I discovered my voice and my smile and fulfillment and purpose. And all of a sudden, when you stand in that power and release that power inside yourself by changing that perspective to our pain points, you start getting creative. You start getting into a lane that that your purpose gets to expose to you. Now you step into that lane and you match the skill sets within that purpose, and all of a sudden, the profit comes. Because the profit can't not come. But we got it backwards. We think, if we just do this and get six figures or seven figures, everything will work out. But we have a backwards and six or seven figures can't not come. It will come if you discover who you are and master that internal game of how you view yourself and how you view the world and get on purpose. I never thought I'd be doing this brother. I had a fifteen thousand square foot house with with the thirteen acres with a block wall. I spent three dollars in a block wall to block everybody out. I'm like, I'm gonna write off on the sunset for majorally Baseball with my millions and millions and millions, and I'm gonna send in my front porch and I don't have to talk to nobody because I hate everybody. That was my perspective on life. But God had a different story. God had a different route, and by the grace of God, I made it through. I was one breath away from losing my life, but I didn't realize as a one breath away from a major breakthrough in my life. And that's when I want to convey it to your years, Sha phenomenal interview, Shane. How could we get in touch with you? They want to find more about your coaching and help them get their lives going in the direction that they wanted to go. Thank you very much. Um. So, what I do is I speak, I teach a coach, and I create video content. You can find me on Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn. That's where I lie most. Um It's just Shae Hill and brand just just uh, just search my naming will be in there. Uh. And then I have MLB mindset dot com. That's where we could find where where I could help you out the most, and we could you could book a call, and I've been getting a discovery call or a coaching call to help you out. Man. So I just thank you so much for this opportunity. Brother, I'm so grateful. Love it man, ladies and gentlemen. The authentic tip for this phenomenal interview, It's all about perspective. Learn how to appreciate things when you have them, and don't try to focus on what you don't have to say, I want this, I want that. Shay talked about getting called in the comparison game, and this to this to that to that, and money and this and have this and have the house and has its cause all these things that don't matter. It's external motivating factors. Learn to live your life with purpose. Learn to live your life with wholesome you know, purpose and love and humanity for others. And when you do that as a leader, as a person, great things will come your way because your living life for your purpose to help others. Again, with a phenomenal interview, and again we're so happy that gluten Talk Ltd, the official clothing brand and clothing sponsor of The Get Off Into with Marcus Show, sponsored this amazing episode with Shan. Thank you very much, Gluten Talk for aligning your brand with ours again. My name is Marcus Ogden. I'm the host of The Get Off Into with Marcus Show. Thanks for tuning in if you enjoyed it. I have a great thing.

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