Get Authentic with Marques Ogden
Get Authentic with Marques Ogden

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Get Authentic with Marques Ogden- Brett Favre & Jake Vanlandingham

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Marques Ogden sits down and speaks with Brett Favre and his business partner Jake Vandlingham about their company Odyssey.  This is an inspiring and educating interview that talks about the importance of concussion awareness, and things we can do to help protect families from dealing with this horrible health issue....

Yeah, flory one, the special episode number five of the get authentic with Marcus show. I'm your host, Marcus Ogden, and we are joined today by two amazing individuals. We Have Jake Van Lendingham and we have a guy who all mike know pretty well. I used to call him the Gun Slinger, Aka Mr Brett Farve. But before we do us want to thank one of our amazing sponsors, power plus Mouthguarden, Dr Michael Hutchinson. It's a brand that was created to help you reduce concussions while playing there's a goal and contact sports. Again, thanks, Dr Hutchinson and powerful as being a sponsor of our great show. Now let's bring to the stage Jake and Brett. How are you all doing today, Marcas, how are you doing about it? Doing well? How about you doing well, Marcus? Thank you good. Good. So, gentlemen, before we get started with the interview, I want to ask you both the question. What does the word authentic mean to you? Brett, you go first and Jake after that. Uh, genuine, real Jacob. Yeah, honest, Um, somebody you can always count on. Um, original and honest. Let me ask you both this question first. So you know, Brett, can you tell me why so many people don't want to be genuine, don't want to be real, you know, in today's light. Like, what do you think that is? Because back, you know, you're a little bit older than I in the back when you play and when I play, I think there was a lot more just real onns in the game. Like, you know, he had the two and a practices. You were out there all the time, you were allowed. You were hitting a lot more and doing all that type of stuff, and I feel in our society to day that genuineess, that authenticity, has been lost and I'd love to hear your thoughts from that. And then go to jake actor. Well, there's a lot of different answers, I'm sure, if you pulled a lot of people why that is. Um, I guess my best answer would be, uh, more related to the younger generation and how they measure themselves by how many likes they have on social media. Um. So. So it's it's more about what they think it is that pleases other others rather than the real, the authentic person, you know, if that makes sense. UH, putting on the front maybe, uh, when really people appreciate just you being you, whatever that is. People can see right through, you know, any fabrication Um and so you're better off, for a lot of reasons, being just who you are. Well, saying, how about you, jake? Yeah, I'm kind of in that same running there. I think people are scared to be themselves. A lot of it social media. What goes on. We've got twenty four seven political stuff. I just feel like people feel like they're they're scared to say what they really mean about things. They've got to almost be superficial or fake these days to exist in the culture that we've kind of created. So I think you do. You know, maybe if you got your but of...

...here sitting along with you, you can be authentic, but when you go out there, even the working world or whatever professional worlds you're in, you you kind of gotta lose it to be able to survive. M So, gentlemen, tell everybody a little bit about Your Business. Honestly, you all got together, you know, explain to everyone that's listening a little bit more about what you want to do. How you all you know, how you all met. Kind of give us a little bit more background on that. Yeah, so, actually, Brett, I text you the other night. Our eight year anniversary and when we first met and started working on this project. So it's been eight years since Brett and I have been together. Um, we, UM, Brett. Brett's agent, Buzz Cook, was friends with a well, sorry, Brett was friends with a neurosurgeon, uh, in Hattiesburg. Brett, I can't remember how, maybe through your brother or your mom, and had some surgery or something. And Uh, he introduced Brett and I and we met up at Brett's agent, Bus Cook's office. Brett, I think you pulled up in in the same Chevy Silverado that you got after winning the Super Bowl. And Uh, we hugh, we helped her wet. Brett was coming for thirty minutes and we ended up shooting, shooting the bull for about three hours. And Uh, and I think that, more than anything, you know, and I'll let Brett speak for himself, about why I was interested in in the project. But but I I wanted to work with someone who was authentic, if you will, about caring about concussion and, I think, and caring about especially the brains of her youth. And I couldn't have found a better colleague and a better friend than Brett when it came for that. Yes, so I appreciate that. Jake, we've been at it. Jake spin had it a lot longer than I have, but he called me at the right time. I'll say that him right not long after I had retired. And for those who remember, uh, and those who don't remember or don't care, my last play was a major concussion. Mum, as I've learned over the years, there's never a good time to have a back concussion, certainly not at forty. And this was right when concussion talk was at its highest, or almost at its highest. The movie concussion had just come out, or was just coming out, which painted a dark picture over the NFL. I have three grandsons. To to this day they have not mentioned playing football. Um, I'm still as I was eight years ago. I'm very reluctant. Two urged them to play. I'm not gonna stop them. Of course, I'm not their parents. Um, so it was. It really was a sensitive time for me in regards to concussions. Um, basically, you know, I had no say in the development of the drug, which which is which is great, because I don't that's not my expertise. My my involvement that basically was bring awareness. Uh, generate some enthusiasm maybe uh funding, uh bring others on board, other athletes who have, uh, either directly or indirectly, uh been exposed to concussions, people like Kurt Warner, appy womback, just to name a few. And I really thought that when me and Jake decided to work...

...together that this was gonna be a lot easier than it has been. Uh, we've had a lot of doors shut um in our face and we've had at times, some exciting, what we thought, opportunities that later on. I mean it's there's a lot of red tape in in this process and that's new to me. But you know the thing about Jake, when you say authentic, Um and he doesn't like to tell a story, and I'm making tell a story all the time, he has a dog in the hunt, if that makes sense. Uh. Yeah, he has developed a drug that we think well, will treat concussions, which would be the first of its kind. But he he suffered a major brain injury and I'll let jake speak on that, but I think it really speaks volumes about why jake is so passionate about what he's doing. Jake, yeah, barb and I were in Atlanta one time. I think we actually met with Jamie dukes while we were there. True, oh, crazy Jamie. But Um, and and I read I don't even know if I told you the story, and you're like, why don't you tell people your story? You know, but you know, back then it happened in August of I never know which, which Jake I was gonna get sometimes, you know, I'd get real upset, you know, and and kind of cry and you know if I told the story and something. So it's taking me a while to be kind of comfortable telling that. Um, briefly, that's the longer story than this. But my brother, my older brother Hugh, had gotten into medical school and he was about to start and me and several friends moved him down there and Um, we went. We went out to this restaurant and about nine it closed. I was the last one of my friends to walk out and there was a vagrant who blindsided me after I've taken about two steps out of the restaurant and because I wasn't ready for it, but this was a big guy. Anyway, it probably would have would matter, but I fell straight down and hitting my head on the curve and I had three major bleeds in my brain. Well, I went to the hospital and they sent me home and didn't even give me a cat scam Um. Why? To this day I don't know. Um, so because I had been unconscious. But the next day all my friends got up to leave and I said, I can't drive, I'm gonna stay another night and I was sleeping on the floor and my brother left. was just me and luckily the phone ring and it woke me up and it was my dad and you know, my speech was or and I couldn't communicate with him. So he called a good friend of his in Gamesville who came and broke through the window and picked me up and took me. took me to the back of the emergency room where they actually put me on a drug that failed clinical trials, but it saved my life. So two years of Amnesia seizures not a lot of fun. But I was the lucky one. I got everything, all my memory back and and never and had missed a beat since. But so yeah, it means something to me for sure. Brett, thanks for thanks for that, Jake and Brett. This is exactly what this show is all about. Let's get real for a moment, audience. Both these fine men have a dog in the fight. Brett said his last play of his amazing, illustrious superstar NFL career was a bad concussion. Jake said why he is in this. He was blindsided. He ended...

...up getting his head and knocked into the ground and had brain leaves and went through the process of trying to get his life back and I'm so glad that Brett encouraged jake to share and Brett, thank you for that, because that's the whole purpose of the our podcasts is so different. Ladies and Gentlemen, we want the stories. I don't care about Brett's hall of Famer I mean touchdown through. That doesn't impress me. What impresses me is that he said he's in this because the last play of his career that happened to him. Like Jake, it happened to him. So I have a question for you both. Jake, want to go to you first. Talk a little bit more about the work you all do with your brand and what is it that is your USP unique selling proposition or your U B R, your unique buying reason? I think Brett was so often to said we've had live doors shutting our face. We've had some exciting things and that's the type of some people think. People would never think that Brett Farr would have his door shut in his face, his door, the door, excuse me, brand they wouldn't think that, oh my God, Brett Farr, who's door? Brett Farr one of the day. If people don't see the value, the door is getting shut. I don't care if it's bred farm, I don't care if it's Santa Claus. That will make a difference. You know what I mean. So what is it, Jake and Bratt? That is the U SP unique selling proposition of you all's brain. I would say from a drug standpoint there's three Um one is that it's one drug that functions like a cocktailer drugs. When you have a stretching of the brain with a concussion, you get inflammation, you get swelling and you get what's called oxidative stress. So one drug working on just one of those pathological consequences is not gonna get it done. So we created a drug that functions to reduce the inflammation, oxident extress and swelling at the same time through what we call a gene amplification mechanism within the brain. The second thing is we've formulated it as a spray dried powder and put it in an intra nasal device, so you're able to blow the drug of your conscious into the nose and we can get it to the deeper parts of the nose that will traffic the drug directly in the brain in less than five minutes. So the nasal aspect of getting more drug they're quicker. Not only starts taking you know, the swelling and all that down pretty quick, but that means most of the drugs in your brain, it's not other areas of your body, reducing the potential side effects that other organs may feel from that drug. And third I would say from a standpoint of it's always key with just about anything right to treat it as early as you can. Our formulation as a spray dried pattern doesn't require cold chain control. It is stable at very high temperatures. So when you talk about a football field, a battlefield in the Middle East desert, you're looking at an issue where a medic buddy in the military, seal to seal, can say, okay, let's get this drug in your right away, even though it's a hundred point degrees out here. It's still a stable, effective drug. So all of those three things combined give this drug the best chance to work. We're excited, uh, to say that we've just finished up phase one, a single dosing of phase one and with blind colors and drugs well tolerated in humans. Uh. We'll have another update closing that phase one trial out uh here in the next six weeks. And we're partnering now. We're looking at sites with Fort Brad Camp Shelby. Um We're looking at working with the air force.

We believe paratroopers are are good for our clinical trial. A lot of concussion. Can Get it right there in the landing zone and go ahead and deliver the drug because of those attributes I just discussed. So I think why we all think, Hey, we're gonna make a drug and it makes everybody better going through this process. It's so much more than just the drug mechanistically working. You've got to have it stable, you've got to have a formula that will actually reach the brain. You've got to have a device that's lightweight so it's not cumbersome in an acute setting. There's just so much more and we've tried to create that and I think that's what separates us right. Yeah, and I think, uh, that's very well said, Jake. I think it's as simple as there isn't anything out there. We try to improve helmets, we try to improve the game front physical perspective by enhancing rules, but the bottom line is the concussions are gonna happen. Um, Craig, I mean, if I'm wrong with Jake, somewhere in the neighborhood of what million or billion, sixty million concussions a year of world four billion dollars has spent from a healthcare perspective on concussions, and that number, both of those numbers, will go up. They are higher. I mean you know it's underreported, you know. So, that being said, helmets and I of course I speak more in relation to football, but when you when you say sixty nine million, seventy million, eighty million concussions, we're covering elderly play grounds, NASCAR, racing in general, volleyball, sock her everyday life, trip and fall on the sidewalk. UH, they're gonna happen. So there needs to be treatment and when you can attack the swelling of the brain like immediately, you can resolve or save a lot of folds and that's my selling point. You know, there isn't anything else out there. You know, Ladies and Gentlemen, let's get real. What I love about what Jake said and what Brett said is that Jake talked a lot more about the the actual process, the operational you know, what makes their the technology, what makes them different. Brett, on the other hand, knows about that. But I love what he talked about the the scary number. Seventy million concussion worldwide, four hundred billion dollars spent. Those are just scary numbers. In general like this has to stop. There has to be something that can help bring this really horrible epidemic of because his thing, and Brett knows is better than anybody. Once your brain is damaged, Brett, I'm sure I'm going to UH UNC Chapel Hood in August from my from my father year check up, when those white dots start forming, that nothing can make them go away. Nothing, nothing. So we gotta stop these white dots from forming. Brett. I made him know what Brett said. He has grandkids. He's not pushing to play football. If they want to play, he's not gonna, like, you know, not stop him but he's like saying, Hey, guys, go up and do what your grandfather did, because Brett knows the damage that it does to your brain. Gentlemen, I have another question. Talk about entrepreneurship. You know, Brett, a lot of players transition and it's...

...an entrepreneurship and people in general. Right, what is it from your football career that you got advice from, maybe like from Mike Home Grand or any other phenomenal coach you played for, right, that you've been able to utilize in coming together with Jacob? He's, like Jake said, for now eight years to kind of really help you, help build the business, because I always tell people were more than athletes and we learn a lot from our coaches and our time in the game and things from that fact, right, Brett, help us to get into our next phase of life. Yeah, you know, every everyone's different and uh, some people, when they leave the game, have a great desire and passion for something that maybe they had their entire life. You know, I just saw Peyton is a good friend of mine. I just saw her. Peyton had is producing TV shows now. Um, yeah, I have no desire to do that. I got and no disrespect to Peyton Peyton. Nothing is surprising me with Peyton Um, and I just used him as an example because he he is not gonna sit idle for too long, you know. But he's not wrong in his desire to do what he wants to do. I'm not wrong in my desire to do what I want to do. I think the big issue is, uh, whatever it is you choose to do. Like I have people ask me how retirement is, and maybe not so much you, Moore, but for the first few years after I retired, hey, how's retirement treating? And I said, man, wonderful. Um, I got plenty to do um on my property. I enjoy doing it. We've got kids playing ball, we got grandkids playing ball. I don't have enough time in the day. Uh, I really didn't have a desire to to do anything business wise. Uh, I'm not saying I wasn't open. Again, Jake Kid me at the right time and it wasn't like Brett. It's a nine to five job. We need you to do this, we need you to do that. So I got it right away what Jake was asking me to do. And Uh, and I was all in, you know. So I think what I would say to players that are presently playing Um in regards to life after football is to have something to fall back on. Doesn't doesn't mean it has to be a nine to five job, but something that can occupy idle time is not good for anyone, you know. So find something that that you enjoy doing, maybe you're passionate about, that is healthy for you mentally, physically and and go for it, you know, but just doing nothing this is long term. It's no good for anyone. Gentlemen, this has been a phenomenal interview. Jake Bratt, you talked about your guys coming together, you talked about your product, your unique selling proposition, these numbers. I got a lot out of it. And Brett, Kudos to you in your retirement to understand that idle time it's not good because you have to keep a schedule. You gotta keep moving, you gotta keep yourself busy because if you don't stay busy, like you said, Peyton's doing, uh, you know, TV great for Peyton. I'm not doing that either, like but Brett said, Hey, I'm gonna take care of the family. I'm gonna do this with Jake me. I'm a speaker, I'm a coach, I've written books, I am a podcast host, you know what I mean. So it's important and I love Jake because Jake came into this interview with an authentic story...

...that people can relate to, because it makes the reason of why you all do what you do much more impactful. One of the biggest things that Aristotle said, Bretton Jake and everybody listening, that's gonna help you connect with people is emotion. It's one of those five keys of success you have. You have your character, emotion, reason, metaphors, conciseness. Ariostyle says if you can master those five things, you succeed in sales and enlighten. Brett and Jake have brought emotion into what they're doing, which is why it's such an amazing venture. Jake Brett, how can people find more information about what you all are doing, your products? How can they get in touch with you if they want to find out more information? Yes, so are the website, as Hodyesty is sorry. The website is Odyssey help INC DOT COM, odyessely health INC DOT COM. And if you put in Odyssey help can cushion, if you just Google, obviously help cushion you can follow all of our press releases and get updates on the clinical trials Um. If you want to learn more about the clinical trials, you can go to clinical trials dot Gov and that will give you an outline of all our trials as we moved through Um this great process. Markets. He's a gentleman. The authentic tip for this amazing interview for people listening. Learn how to utilize your strengths and come together with teamwork. I don't care who you are. Brett, phenomenal player, great man, great awesome. Jake, phenomenal man, phenomenal story awesome. Together they are building something special. Learn the value of teamwork. Teamwork is gonna get you from Point A to point B. The human mind was not designed to do everything, but it's designed to do on things. When you do well, do it. What you don't do well, like Brett and Jake said, delegate it and keep moving forward, turning your objectives into accomplishments. Brett Jake, thank you for joining us on special episode number five of the get authentick with Marcus show. I'm your host, Marcus Ogden. Have a great day, M.

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